Minutes for 0278: Inconsistent Clause 5 and PICS with respect to state machines

Standard: 802.1AS-2020 Clause: 5.4.2 Draft with fix: ASdm/d0.5 Submitted: 2020-08-11
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Date Meeting Text Status
2020-08-31 15 Sep 2020 Concall Received Received
2020-09-22 22 Sep 2020 Interim It was agreed that there are inconsistencies between clause 5 and the PICs with respect to these optional features. The editor should review the linkages and make the necessary changes in the PICs and clause 5 (if needed). Editor of ASdm to include in the next draft Complete then Ballot
2020-12-02 2 Dec 2020 Concall In MDFDPP-5 also remove the duplicate reference to 10.3.18. Also rectify the difference in conformance between 5.4.2 h) verses 5.5 c). Editor to research solution before decision of adding to AS-2020/Cor1 Complete then Ballot
2021-01-22 19 Jan 2021 Interim Further research into the issue was presented in https://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2021/as-garner-maintenance-item-278-input-needed-v00.pdf. It was agreed that the issue is too complex to include in the Corrigendum and further discussion will be needed. It was considered that a fix for this issue might need to be coordinated with 802.1BA and backward compatibility with 802.1AS-2011 should be considered. The status is being changed back to Technical Experts review as more discussion is required and a specific vehicle for a fix has not been identified yet. Technical experts review
2021-02-16 16 Feb 2021 Concall Ongoing offline discussions are taking place to form a proposed resolution. The solution is expected to be included in ASdm when ready. Technical experts review
2021-03-09 9 Mar 2021 Plenary Further discussion is required around the issue of making some of the features optional instead of mandatory. The editor of ASdm agreed to log the issue in Annex Z of the next draft. There was concern from silicon developers that making an optional feature mandatory for one profile and not another is hard to support, and while it may add cost and complexity, it might be more desired to have a single silicon implementation that supports multiple industry verticals. Further discussion is required. Technical experts review
2021-05-07 4 May 2021 Interim The issue is scheduled to be discussed in a TSN conference call on May 10th, 2021 Technical experts review
2021-06-22 22 Jun 2021 Concall The issue has been reviewed in TSN and the editor of P802.1ASdm has agreed to include a solution in the next draft. The feature will be optional in 802.1AS Complete then Ballot